Rank Brutal Youth

King Hoarse · Post by **King Hoarse** » Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:50 pm

Yes, iPole, amazing.

But surely Clown Strike must be someone's favourite?
(it was mine for awhile)

And Rocking Horse Road? If only the Brodskys were rankers...

bambooneedle · Post by **bambooneedle** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:09 am

1. You Tripped At Every Step
2. Sulky Girl
3. Clown Strike
4. Kinder Murder
5. My Science Fiction Twin
6. This Is Hell
7. Still Too Soon To Know
8. Favourite Hour
9. Pony St
10. Just About Glad
11. All The Rage
12. London's Brilliant Parade
13. Rocking Horse Road
14. 20% Amnesia
15. 13 Steps Lead Down

Chrille · Post by **Chrille** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:20 am

Clown Strike shares the first place together with All the Rage in my book, so if you want to have the first place on my list you can change if you want

oily slick · Post by **oily slick** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:18 am

01. Sulky Girl
02. London's Brilliant Parade
03. Pony Street
04. Rocking Horse Road
05. 13 Steps Lead Down
06. My Science Fiction Twin
07. You Tripped At Every Step
08. Kinder Murder
09. Clown Strike
10. Favourite Hour
11. Still Too Soon To Know
12. All The Rage
13. Just About Glad
14. This Is Hell
15. 20% Amnesia

libster · Post by **libster** » Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:42 pm

1. Rocking Horse Road
2.Clown Strike
3.Just About Glad
4.Sulky Girl
5.Pony Street
6.13 Steps Lead Down
7.London's Brilliant Parade
8.All The Rage
9.My Science Fiction Twin
10.You Tripped At Every Step
11.Favourite Hour
12.Kinder Murder
13.Still Too Soon To Know
14. This Is Hell
15. 20% Amnesia

El Vez · Post by **El Vez** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:51 am

20% Amnesia has gotten a nice kick in the balls on this thread.

wardo68 · Post by **wardo68** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:46 am

I haven't gone back and counted, but it seems to me that this particular album poll has gotten more responses than previous ones. I'd be curious to know the actual turnout. Perhaps the good King is keeping track?

legman open to offers · Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:36 pm

1 thru 8 is about as tough as it gets.

And another kick to the crotch for 20% Amnesia:

1 All The Rage
2 13 Steps Lead Down
3 You Tripped At Every Step
4 Just About Glad
5 Sulky Girl
6 Pony Street
7 Still To Soon To Know
8 Rocking Horse Road
9 Kinder Murder
10 London's Brilliant Parade
11 My Science Fiction Twin (And he answered "Superbly")

12 This Is Hell
13 Clown Strike
14 20% Amnesia
15 Favourite Hour

oily slick · Post by **oily slick** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:37 pm

wardo68 wrote:I haven't gone back and counted, but it seems to me that this particular album poll has gotten more responses than previous ones. I'd be curious to know the actual turnout. Perhaps the good King is keeping track?

due to it's release date, it bridges generations. plus it is accessible.

Who Shot Sam? · Post by **Who Shot Sam?** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:45 pm

I'll give it a go:

1. Still Too Soon To Know
2. All The Rage
3. Kinder Murder
4. You Tripped At Every Step
5. Just About Glad
6. Clown Strike
7. Sulky Girl
8. This Is Hell
9. My Science Fiction Twin
10. Rocking Horse Road
11. Favourite Hour
10. London's Brilliant Parade
11. Pony Street
12. 20% Amnesia
13. 13 Steps Lead Down

VonOfterdingen · Post by **VonOfterdingen** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:17 pm

Please keep this ranking going for one more week. Im going to Berlin tomorrow and Brutal Youth will be a companion. People sure don't like "This is hell" very much. Strange.

(im listening to "red cotton" from the secret arias over and over

El Vez · Post by **El Vez** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:26 pm

VonOfterdingen wrote:Please keep this ranking going for one more week. Im going to Berlin tomorrow and Brutal Youth will be a companion. People sure don't like "This is hell" very much. Strange.

I like that song a lot. Those other people are communists.

Post by **BlueChair** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:05 pm

El Vez wrote:
VonOfterdingen wrote:Please keep this ranking going for one more week. Im going to Berlin tomorrow and Brutal Youth will be a companion. People sure don't like "This is hell" very much. Strange.
I like that song a lot. Those other people are communists.

So do I. People are just jealous of Elvis' lyrical prowess.

King Hoarse · Post by **King Hoarse** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:59 pm

wardo68 wrote:I haven't gone back and counted, but it seems to me that this particular album poll has gotten more responses than previous ones. I'd be curious to know the actual turnout. Perhaps the good King is keeping track?

24 rankers here so far, which I think is about average. I think Trust was the first to have more than 30, and is probably still in the lead, somewhat unexpectedly.

And of course, ranking is a bit unfair. I love 20% Amnesia and This Is Hell, but the others are just too great to be pushed further down. They would probably both be in the top 5 of at least 5 other EC records. (In fact, they both have a bit of a MLAR feel to me, and I'm sure they would have benefitted from that sound, as would Still Too Soon To Know.) But still I'm really surprised that 20% is the least popular song on the record. After all these years, it still grows on me with every listen, which is something I can't say about This Is Hell, my favourite after the first spin.

My biggest surprise so far in this whole ranking shebang is that Favourite Hour is so close to the bottom. I just don't understand. To my ears that's one of Elvis' finest hours as singer and melodicist (if the latter is a word).

I put Still Too Soon To Know at the bottom of my ranking because the sound really doesn't fit AND I think Elvis should have kept the intimacy of the first two verses by not wailing on IIIIN HIS SPEEEEELL and WAAAYYY THAT HEEEEE. IMHO it sounds misplaced and undermines the drama of the bridge. I really like the song as such.

verena · Post by **verena** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:28 pm

I do like 20 %. Would need the album to find out if it could grow on me.

(I didn't get B.Y. because of "Brutal", precisely).

Extreme Honey · Post by **Extreme Honey** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:27 am

BlueChair wrote:
El Vez wrote:
VonOfterdingen wrote:Please keep this ranking going for one more week. Im going to Berlin tomorrow and Brutal Youth will be a companion. People sure don't like "This is hell" very much. Strange.
I like that song a lot. Those other people are communists.
So do I. People are just jealous of Elvis' lyrical prowess.

In this case I like every song on the album, so the last song I ranked I still like very much. I've been doing some thinking about Brutal Youth. I think the album is a polished version of his youther days, it resembles anger and guilt and along the way it mentions other thing, like politics and society and whatnot. I beleive the meaning of this album is very much the same as TYM, except it's not so loud and direct, and the artist has now fully blossomed and a lot more mature and capable than back in the 70's. I like this album because it reminds us all that Elvis is still Elvis, he still feels his anger and his guilt even years after he abandoned the punk scene.
ANd here's a good question: Do you think Bruce asked Elvis what "How To Be Dumb" was all about as soon as he stepped into the studio?

verbal gymnastics · Post by **verbal gymnastics** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:01 am

Extreme Honey wrote:ANd here's a good question: Do you think Bruce asked Elvis what "How To Be Dumb" was all about as soon as he stepped into the studio?

I heard* it was probably what led to the break up of the Attractions in 1996.

*I heard it in my head as I was typing this.

Extreme Honey · Post by **Extreme Honey** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:24 pm

The Attractions broke up long before 1996, which is why they "Re-United" for BY. I think it mentioned that on the sleeve note or on a sticker or something. I would say BC was the last real EC and the ATT album.

verbal gymnastics · Post by **verbal gymnastics** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:32 am

Perhaps I have misunderstood your comment but they didn't "Reunite" specifically for Brutal Youth.

Whilst you may say that Blood & Chocolate is the last real Elvis Costello & The Attractions album, the history books show that All This Useless Beauty was an album by Elvis Costello & The Attractions.

The clues are in the words on the cover of the album - you just have to look for them.

mood swung · Post by **mood swung** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:53 am

1. Just About Glad
2. All The Rage
3. Sulky Girl
4. This Is Hell
5. You Tripped At Every Step
6. Still Too Soon To Know
7. 13 Steps Lead Down
8. Pony Street
9. Rocking Horse Road
10. London’s Brilliant Parade
11. Clown Strike
12. Kinder Murder
13. Favourite Hour
14. My Science Fiction Twin
15. 20 % Amnesia

Fishfinger king · Post by **Fishfinger king** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:08 pm

1 Favourite hour
2 You tripped at every step
3 Kinder murder
4 Still too soon to know
5 13 steps lead down
6 Pony St
7 Sulky girl
8 Rocking horse road
9 All the rage
10 Just about glad
11 My science fiction twin
12 London's brilliant parade
13 This is hell
14 Clown strike
15 20% amnesia
Ever since I heard EC do Favouite hour at the Albert Hall as the encore with Steve on the massive organ there (ooh er missus) it's been one of my favourites. The top 9 songs stand up there with his very best.

Masterpiece? · Post by **Masterpiece?** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:15 pm

It should be noted (or maybe it's completely unnecessary) that even if a song is ranked low, it doesn't mean the song is disliked. It justs means people are fonder of other songs.

1 Rocking Horse Road
2 Clown Strike
3 Thirteen Steps Lead Down
4 Londons Brilliant Parade
5 Sulky Girl
6 You Tripped at Every Step
7 My Science Fiction Twin
8 All the Rage
9 Favorite Hour
10 Just About Glad
11 This Is Hell
12 Pony Street
13 Still Too Soon to Know
14 20% Amnesia
15 Kinder Murder

The difference between my love for Rocking Horse Road and Kinder Murder is really not that much...

VonOfterdingen · Post by **VonOfterdingen** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:00 pm

1. All the rage
2. You tripped at every step
3. Sulky girl
4. This is Hell
5. Rocking Horse Road
6. Just about glad
7. Kinder Murder
8. Still to soon to know
9. Favorite Hour
10. Clown Strike
11. 20% Amnesia
12. 13 steps lead down
13. Pony Street
14. My science fiction twin
15. Londons brilliant parade

so lacklustre · Post by **so lacklustre** » Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:08 am

001. This is Hell
002. Favorite Hour
003. Sulky girl
004. Pony Street
005. Clown Strike
006. 20% Amnesia
007. Kinder Murder
008. Rocking Horse Road
009. Londons brilliant parade
010. My science fiction twin
011. All the rage
012. Still to soon to know
013. 13 steps lead down
014. Just about glad
015. You tripped at every step

MegJS · Post by **MegJS** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:11 pm

I adore this album, it's hard and almost impossible for me to rate it so here's the way things are at present:

1. Pony St.
2. You Tripped At Every Step
3. London's Brilliant Parade
4. Sulky Girl
5. 20% Amnesia
6. Kinder Murder
7. This Is Hell
8. Rocking Horse Road
9. All The Rage
10. 13 Steps Lead Down
11. Clown Strike
12. Just About Glad
13. My Science Fiction Twin
14. Favourite Hour
15. Still Too Soon To Know